tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post325486697311425476..comments2024-02-23T03:28:33.435-05:00Comments on Culture Industry: the fénéon bookMark Scrogginshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01431113440875342809noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-83660024577100705552010-12-04T10:48:47.150-05:002010-12-04T10:48:47.150-05:00I'm impressed that Annandale Dream Gazette cou...I'm impressed that Annandale Dream Gazette could post such a self-refuting comment. The Feneon project is centered on the question of how reputations are made and unmade in the tiny world of the North American po-biz. So to dismiss the Feneonistes as "a couple of resentful & mean little boys snickering in the corner" -- a comment that simultaneously infantilizes them and places them beyond the bounds of "acceptable" discourse -- is to concede their point.<br /><br />And in Vendeuvre, the corpse of M. Foucault chuckles lightly.Bill Freindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-48000253487938860372010-12-03T19:15:23.377-05:002010-12-03T19:15:23.377-05:00Hi Bob:
Leaving aside the works (and days) of the...Hi Bob:<br /><br />Leaving aside the works (and days) of the shifting, shadowy Feneon Collective for the moment...<br /><br />I'm not sure what you mean by "positioning as an outsider" in Kent Johnson's Homage to the Last Avant-Garde. For me one of the things that's powerful about Kent's work is that he does precisely the opposite, including and implicating himself in those writings of his where "institutional critique" is at stake. To take only one of the most familiar examples, doesn't he stand self-arraigned in that perp-walk of progressive, privileged "American poet[s], twentyish, early to mid-thirtyish, fortyish to seventyish," in the last section of "Get the Hood Back On"? Otherwise it would not be so frightening and revelatory a moment, because we might also be able to assure ourselves that we could stand outside or apart from the atrocities. This way there's no escape; we have to face our situation and culpability, as writers in the imperial center, with sober senses. I'd even go so far as to call his a materialist rather than idealist poetics.<br /><br />Similarly, the "difference between literary pose and political action" is not, at a fundamental level, a choice, but rather a real contradiction that constitutes the field. So one form of political action might be to strike poses that expose those very contradictions, which is what I think that Kent's work does (among many other things as well).<br /><br />Just my two cents on this..Edmond Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02463767934803330861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-33279725126801976012010-12-03T14:34:10.485-05:002010-12-03T14:34:10.485-05:00Hey Kent,
I guess what I meant by the similar tar...Hey Kent,<br /><br />I guess what I meant by the similar targets in the FC book and Homage aren't the personae, but the general themes -- positioning as outsider, difference between literary pose and political action, etc.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />B.Archambeauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17273511539172747550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-42543676774959532022010-12-03T12:41:30.873-05:002010-12-03T12:41:30.873-05:00Dear “Annandale Dream Gazette”:
The exemplary Dul...Dear “Annandale Dream Gazette”:<br /><br />The exemplary Dullness of your “comment” can mean only one thing – that you are auditioning for inclusion in the next revision of The Dunciad. I regret to inform you, however, that Mr. Pope has been dead for a number of years, and there will be no further revisions. Some knowledge of the literary tradition of satire might have rescued you from this blunder.<br /><br />In the meantime, readers of Scroggins' fine appreciation of Works & Days might also enjoy the review that John Latta recently posted on his blog:<br /><br />http://isola-di-rifiuti.blogspot.com/2010/11/works-and-days-of-feneon-collective.htmlEdmond Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02463767934803330861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-68510882747919001872010-12-03T12:39:19.564-05:002010-12-03T12:39:19.564-05:00Miss Dream-Gazette, or may I call you Anna?
What ...Miss Dream-Gazette, or may I call you Anna?<br /><br />What metamorphosis do you refer to when you write, "Ah, yet another metamorphosis?" Is it the great story by Kafka? Also, thank you Mr. Scroggins for clarifying that I am not Mr. Johnson. I am Raj. <br /><br />Oh thank Ganesh for the internet! Otherwise how would I engage with this fascinating poetry community of Frenchmen named Archimbeau and shemales named Annandale! <br /><br />From the depths of my Indian night to yours,<br />RajRajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-15852442821744508482010-12-03T11:51:23.022-05:002010-12-03T11:51:23.022-05:00For the record, I dunno who "Raj" is, bu...For the record, I dunno who "Raj" is, but he isn't Kent Johnson -- his comment doesn't emanate from a Johnsonian IP address (unless Kent is somehow being in two places across the continent at once). And it's really not at all the sort of thing he'd write, anyway.Mark Scrogginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01431113440875342809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-77761804610766960002010-12-03T10:41:41.479-05:002010-12-03T10:41:41.479-05:00Ah, yet another metamorphosis.Ah, yet another metamorphosis.Annandale Dream Gazettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155953951163636760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-91407952743331679052010-12-03T10:18:12.211-05:002010-12-03T10:18:12.211-05:00Miss Dream-Gazette (forgive me I am not a native E...Miss Dream-Gazette (forgive me I am not a native English speaker I assume Annandale is female name, though with name like Anna-and-Dale maybe you some kind of shemale?),<br /><br />My name Raj and I am one of a cabal of Indian poets carrying the loins of Tagore through the childrened streets of Calcutta. Anyway, I just received my copy of the Faits Divers and it is being passed around poetry community here like some say hooker in debt. We are all loving it very much, and have begun our own collective. Rahter than mean little boys snickering in corner, this book has impelled us towards a new brotherhood here, in which we die in faits divers, that we may live in life. My 7500 rupees was not wasted. I beg your pardon, Miss (or Mr., or Misster) Annandale, but I find your post tangential at best. <br /><br />Namaste,<br />RajRajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-40150954379553717822010-12-02T19:58:45.691-05:002010-12-02T19:58:45.691-05:00There's a big difference between witty, cogent...There's a big difference between witty, cogent satire and a couple of resentful & mean little boys snickering in the corner. I'm not going to waste my money on it, and I hope nobody else does either.Annandale Dream Gazettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155953951163636760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-28279097660628711752010-12-02T16:15:07.743-05:002010-12-02T16:15:07.743-05:00Also, Bob, just to say: At least you get out with ...Also, Bob, just to say: At least you get out with just one fairly gentle faits aimed your way; I get three of them in the book, and each is decidedly of the humiliating kind. So a man shouldn't complain!Kent Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-3976343262620932952010-12-02T16:08:41.807-05:002010-12-02T16:08:41.807-05:00Bob,
I don't have a copy of Homage to the Las...Bob,<br /><br />I don't have a copy of Homage to the Last Avant-Garde in front of me, and could be my memory is off, but I don't recall any poems in it that name living poets in a satirical manner. Much of the book, in fact, has little to do with satire, at least in sense of the feneon. So I wouldn't see much in common between Homage to the Last A-G and Works and Days of the feneon collective-- whether you got a PDF of the latter from me or not!<br /><br />And hey, I suppose the fact you don't like Zizek makes the bottle over the head even funnier.Kent Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-50279155014660318742010-12-02T15:43:50.575-05:002010-12-02T15:43:50.575-05:00Still waiting for the copy I ordered when the book...Still waiting for the copy I ordered when the book was announced. But I did get a pdf from Kent Johnson. The targets are pretty much the same as the targets in Kent's <i>Homage to the Last Avant-Garde</i>, don't you think?<br /><br />I'm pleased to find myself there, a bottle broken over my head by a Marxist who objects to my alleged interest in Zizek. I'd break a bottle over my head myself if I caught myself praising Z, though. Dude is frequently a chowderhead.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BobArchambeauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17273511539172747550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11295909.post-88837145228226355902010-12-02T14:57:53.876-05:002010-12-02T14:57:53.876-05:00Reconfigurations journal will be having a roundtab...Reconfigurations journal will be having a roundtable discussion on the fenon collective book in its upcoming issue.<br /><br />Some "impolite" stuff in a hyper- polite parlor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com